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News. Ross Middleton reporting. The Jordanian Hijaz railway restarted passenger services between Amman and Darraa in Syria. The train takes 2.5 hours each way and will run every Saturday until the end of the year. It leaves Amman at 7:30am and returns from Darraa at 6:00pm. The price for the return trip is JD20 first class and JD15 second class and the ticket price includes a meal at a location adjacent to the lake in Darraa.

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Visit Report. Keith Chambers reporting.

Zhem shed Er 3786 plinthed (This number indicates an L – Ed).; Turkestan shed L 3795 heating loco

On 05/08/12 I visited Tashkent Railway museum. Steam locos present were as follows; Su 250-94, 9P-649, TE- 5200, P36-0250, FD20-2849, Ov-1534, YeA-2371, Em732-35, Eu705-74, SO17-2657, LV0487 and 75cm gauge 0-8-0 Kc 4-228.

The present locomotive depot at Tashkent is on the north side of the main station. A good view of the depot yard and current Uzbek motive power can be had from the footbridge that leads from the main station buildings to the part of town to the north of the line.

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Visit Report. Tim Gilbert reporting.

10/8/2012. From the border station of Hani I Elzit, Kosovo Railways loco 001 (ex 645 033, HZ 2044 031) was in ex Works condition to haul our train to Kosovo Polje.

Running into Kosovo Polje, 4wD MDD3 02 was shunting, whilst former Swedish Y1s 01 1281 and 02 1304 were in the station. Next was a trip to Obilic Power Station to view the steam locos. 62 636 and 62 670 were outside the shed, complete and in reasonable condition but the state of the track indicated that there had been no activity for some time.

The third loco was inside the shed and a man spent 5 minutes industriously fiddling with keys to gain entry. He gave up and there was just a suspicion that it was all for show and that actually they had lost the key. However 62 676 was visible through the window at the side of the shed so no harm was done.

Just as we arrived back at the depot at Kosovo Polje, Nohab 005 (Di3 619) came past on a passenger train heading for the station. This was one of the two Nohabs found working, the other, 007 (Di3 641), being on shed.

Outside at the north end of the shed were three stored ex Italian DMUs: Aln 668 1528/1531/1534; 4wD MDD3 01 with build markings “Express Service Ltd. RUSE” and “new” 010. This loco has been reported as converted from 661 203 (however see later on) but it is unclear how much of any former loco was used in its construction at Gredelj, Zagreb in 2010. In an adjacent straight shed was OOU 006 (Di3 633).

Onwards to the compound of stored locos. Positively identified were: 641 111/112/122/129/130/131/203/204/ 211/212; 661 114/128/254; 664 062; 734 031/109 and ex SNCF 63015/018. Two 661s were not positively identified. One of these had a number ending in 3 and as all 661 1xx and 661 2xx ending in 3 have been accounted for recently apart from 661 203, it is believed that this was that loco. No identification at all was visible on the other but from previous reports it is believed that this was probably 661 261. Any confirmation of this (or otherwise) gratefully received.

In the maintenance part of the shed were 661s 002 (ex 661 132) and 004 (ex 661 231) and Vossloh G1700, 009. Tucked away at the side of the shed was OOU ex Sweden DAL 3180C (Z65 548). Finally, on its own in a shed further down the yard toward the station, the last Nohab 008 (Di3 643) OOU, minus both bogies and with a hint of derailment damage.

Back at the station the opportunity was taken to photograph plinthed 01 043. It was a surprise that Kosovo Railways appear to be in much better condition than either Serbian or Macedonian railways. Perhaps this was largely due to the fact that most of the stock was originally from Scandinavia (locos, DMUs, coaches) and Austria (coaches).

Having said that, even if the stock did come from elsewhere it still has to be maintained in good condition. The only items of stock not seen were two more Y1 DMUs and 661 003 which we were told was undergoing overhaul at Gredlj in Zagreb. We were also told that this loco had a very round about journey as it couldn’t pass through Serbia! .

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Visit Report. Tim Gilbert reporting.

9/8/2012. Our first Macedonian loco was sighted at the border station of Tabanovce – 461 119 on a freight. At Kumanovo DMU 712 107/716 107/712 108 was working a passenger train. 661 220 was passed on the outskirts of Skopje and 642 178 was station pilot at Skopje. The loco that had hauled us from the border was revealed as 461 121.

There was time to seek out a couple of steam locos in Skopje and 83 064 was found at the Railway School and 0-8-0 Henschel 15079/17 plinthed with a train in a park. Back at the station (where free wifi was available, although only on the level below the platforms), arrivals were 441 754 and 661 238.

10/8/2012. The following morning at the station new items, 661 235 and DMU 712 101/716 101/712 102 were to be found. Next a visit to the depot where a number of stored 661 were observed but alas we were too late by a few months as a number had been cut up. Still present were: 661 144/221/222/240/241; 661 404/405/411/412.

Other stored locos: 441 108; 643 005; 667 002; 732 176; 734 014. In addition to these there was “732 106” with DD works plate 1106/79. JZ 732 106 (DD 804/69) became HZ 2132 028 and then 2132 313 so this was a bit of a mystery? Also present were a 4wD Min DHL200V 002, works number 45597 (?) and BRUSH 0-4-0D 609/64!

Working or under repair locos: 441 028/506/755; 442 002/003; 462 002; 642 006/402/404; 643 006; 661 146/234/236/237; 661 410; 667 001. DMU vehicles littered the depot site but none were in working order. Worryingly, there was more evidence of renumbering and a lot of detective work had to be employed! The tally: 712 008 (formerly 712 005)/009/012/017; 712 103/104; 714 002/007/008; 716 004/004”(possibly formerly 716 007)/008; 716 103; 812 155.

It was a similar story with EMUs, but there was one working example on the depot: 412 053/416 053/416 054/412 054 (which had been renumbered from 412 060) Stored: 412 054/057/058/059 416 057/058/059/060.

The depot is next to the mainline and 642 401 and 712 105/716 105/712 106 were seen passing. Leaving the depot, 412 055/416 055/416 056/412 056 were stabled. Heading on towards Kosovo, 661 219 was crossed at Skopje Sever heading the morning train from Kosovo. 661 408 was passed on a tank train at Volkovo. Returning later that day 661 410 was motive power from the Kosovo border at Hani I Elzit to Skopje and 461 121 did the honours for the overnight train to Belgrade

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Rod Smith July 2012

  Zuid Limburgse Stoomtrein Mij, Simpelveld   Std   1040 2-8-0   IC Nohab 939 1910 1289 4-6-0   OC Nohab 1096 1914 1220 4-6-0   OC Nohab 1036 1914 1090 0-8-0   IC Nohab 966 1911 8826 0-6-0 ST IC HE 3165 1944  

1040 was working, chimney facing East, with 1289 under repair, 1220 spare, 1090 dismantled and 8826 completely dismantled (frame only in shed and parts of boiler outside).

  In addition to the above there were two narrow gauge (60cm?) 4w diesels against the wall in one of the sheds; one was an OK with a big brass plate on the back of the cab carrying 4363 and the second appeared to have no plates but the axle boxes were marked Spooryzer. I did not see the compressed air loco which is said to be at the station, but I could easily have just not noticed it.  

A very popular line with the trains full enough to warrant some standing passengers. Services are operated over three distinct routes with steam on the Simpelveld to Valkenberg; the longest; and Simpelveld to Kerkrade lines with a railcar on the cross-border Simpelveld to Vetschau line. At both Valkenberg and Kerkrade the loco runs round the train in between the service trains on the main line.  

Jon Burdett Oct 2009
Access to depots in Holland is extremely limited with all depots surrounded by security fencing and gates to try to keep the graffiti sprayers out.

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03/08/2012 John Beechey
Norway Technical Museum, Oslo - Thunes 322 0-6-0T sectioned.   The staff on duty were unable to confirm the existence of the other items on the LCGB list, and therefore had no knowledge of their whereabouts! To try to find them they used google not their own werbsite!!  

Kroderbanen NSB 225 & 236 both in steam and ran train. MW 1248  on track in "goods warehouse" in station buildings and serviceable. NSB 207 & Fireless not seen but cofirmed as at Kloftefoss (note correct spelling) This site was shown as open to visitors, but not included in the visit.  

Sorumsand - No4 in steam and others in shed no status change.  

Stavanger Station - NSB 10 plinth in booking hall.  

Garnes -  Nsb 255 in steam -no change  

Hamar - No change to the LCGB list - URSKOG in steam.   I found a museum store closed but full of diesels & electrics. This at S.end of station in old roundhouse. This part of operational NSB workshops. Didn't have time to explore rest of site. Managed to prise out of museum staff that Caroline was there somewhere so good chance the other steam are.All Museum Staff are NSB employees as NSB own site and stock.  

Lommesdalsbanen. - They didnt respond to my email and, in any event, I wouldn't have had time to go as our tour leader 'lost' a party member at Oslo Airport and as a consequence we lost 3/4 hr trying to find him. When we got to hotel he was already there! Not good trip- enough said.  

Howard Forster July 2009.
utside, there appeared to be only railcar sets at the depot. At the station were noted EL18.2254/7, 69051/83 and 73007.

Berekvam. At the crossing point on the Flam Railway, EL17.2230 on the 11:00 from Flam, waits for EL17.2229/7, topping and tailing the 10:55 train descending from Myrdal, to pass. 07/07/09

Photo by Howard Forster

Bergen, Awaiting departure was 18.2257 on the 16:10 to Oslo. 08/07/09

Photo by Howard Forster